I am sorry for the slight thread drift, however Hulabula has made a few comments that I cannot allow to go without correction.
The pre 2007 pilot group committee were the ones who allowed the pilot conditions to free fall. Those who were around would remember NH, GV and RW + others signing up to "Future horizons". They would remember the introduction of paying for endorsements and bonding. and who can forget the famous question that was put to the pilots "who supports FH in its entirety?" Of course there was no satisfactory answer to that. Only an idiot could support it, and even if you said NO it was read as still supporting some of it, s reasobale. This was all pre collective agreement days as these guys couldn't achieve that goal even with some meek support from the AFAP.
Along comes 2007 and the new committee rid themselves of the AFAP and with support from the majority of the pilot body engaged the TWU. Yes it was the 2007 pilot group committee that engaged the TWU achieved a collective agreement, saw the end of paying for endorsements, having to battle the previous pilot groups acceptance of Future Horizons.
There were many more wins, thats for another day.
Selective memory is an understatement, whoever you are Hulabula you were either not around in 2007 or you were asleep at the wheel.