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Old 6th Mar 2013, 10:11
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Chris Scott
 
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Thanks Broadreach. Considering I did my own 707 base-training with AA at DFW, I was a bit slow on that one! But, by then, the JT3D (turbofans) were producing a lot less smoke than the stove-pipes in that photo.

Quote from PAXboy:
"...it was the action of Gear Up - that produced the Positive Rate of Climb."

On a more serious note, that's unlikely. The opening of the gear doors adds so much drag that - as a general rule - it will take even longer to reach screen height, because maintaining V2 (or whatever) will require a lower pitch angle. So selecting the gear up is not going to get you over the perimeter wall: the benefit will be delayed until retraction is almost completed.

By the way, even the 707-320C (with the turbofans) could struggle out of LAX on a hot day at MTOW. Passing Vr, you couldn't afford to rotate too enthusiastically (as I once did) or the a/c could sit on the runway.
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