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Old 26th Feb 2013, 04:02
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IIRC, in the Carlsbad crash the approach was flown at such an excessive speed that landing and stopping on the runway surface was impossible. A very late go-around was attempted, but far too late to avoid hitting the LOC antenna array.

In the Hawker crash in Ottumwa, the speed was within normal approach speed range for the conditions, but with a tailwind component and a slightly long landing within the TDZ. On a wet runway, braking was ineffective and a very late go-around was attempted resulting in the airplane leaving the ground after the runway end. The crew coordination was less than ideal, resulting in the flaps being selected up prematurely. This ultimately led to an asymmetric stall and collision with the ground. Reading the report and CVR transcript, it was never clear to me that lift dump was ever fully deployed, perhaps contributing to the lack of braking effectiveness. Had the PIC elected to continue the stop instead of aborting the landing, it very likely would have been a low speed runway overrun event rather than a fatal crash. At some point in every landing, committing to stay on the ground and discarding any thought of a go-around must occur. In the Hawker, selection of lift dump is normally considered to be the act which commits you to staying on the ground, as much as T/R selection does in other aircraft.

What do these two accidents have in common with the Premier crash in Georgia?

NTSB board member Mark Rosenker is quoted as saying in a briefing last week (according to Avweb.com and available for viewing at NTSB.gov) that the airplane had clipped a utility pole and crashed following an aborted landing.

I seem to recall a spate of overruns in the Premier 1 when it first entered service a few years ago. Something to do with the lift dump system and supposedly addressed by Raytheon/Beech.

So it seems quite possible that this accident has a couple of things in common with one or both of the above cited accidents. Thanks ksjc and GF for mentioning them. Since the NTSB was having a slow week and saw fit to send a major investigation go-team to the crash, (not normal for non air carrier accidents not involving well known celebrities) it seems likely that information on this accident will be more visible for internet accident investigators like me via the NTSB website.

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