Talkdownman- I tend to agree with you up to a point, but joining overhead in these days of routine noise complaints from the locals, especially on a fine Sunday is something I try to avoid, always assuming its safe to do so, I think that its far better to get down with the minimum time droning around in the vicinity, hence the base leg join. My point wasn't that I never do anything wrong, but that errors, or peceived errors for that matter, shouldn't be dealt with by a blast over the airwaves whilst turning onto final approach.