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Old 6th Jan 2013, 00:15
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Fairdealfrank
 
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Quote: “Boris frankly, has not really maintained a consistent position; he seems to change his mind every time he talks about the subject…

Even for Tories in a safe seat in the areas surrounding those airports, they don’t really have much room to support expansion anyway…

Pleased that the penny has finally dropped about Boris!

That’s why it’s SILVER Island!

Even for Tories in a safe seat in the areas surrounding those airports, they don’t really have much room to support expansion anyway…

Why?

Quote: “Besides, the only reason I would be a MP would be support their policies anyway, not to be under the hand of a Whip…

Bet they all say that at the start!

Quote: The problem is that the Tories need to increase the number of votes than what they got in 2010, yet no Tory government has done this since the 50s, when they had a lot of support in the North and Scotland, the economy was doing well (this was the “never had it so good era”), none of which apply today and even you must admit that Dave is more like Major than Thatcher

Also, the Lib Dems will suffer badly in 2015, UKIP is taking more and more of the Tory vote (not good in marginal seats…) and their plan to cut the number of MPs is looking increasingly unlikely…”

You’re forgetting about the Libdem marginals with Conservatives in second place, which is most of them! Now that the Libdems are in government, UKIP takes the “protest” vote that used to go to them. UKIP therefore takes votes from all parties. Many of the Libdem seat losses will go to the Conservatives. It's not as clear cut or as simple as you suggest.

Quote: For them to win in 2015, the following must happen:

1: There is an economic miracle on the scale not even Thatcher could achive in the next 2 years (and that’s if Greece stays in the Euro and America gets a move on with fixing the budget crisis)

2: They would have to do a deal with UKIP (not an easy task)

3: Boris will have to be leader and make the most of his personality

4: They really have to criticise the Lib Dem’s and do policies that make them stand out from their partners in government

5: Ed Milliband and is fellow cabinet members are exposed as doing something really stupid (expenses, links to terrorism or child abuse…)

I am sure even Maggie in her prime would have a hard task ahead of them, I have a lot of doubts if Dave could pull it all off…

Actually Thatcher presided over two deep recessions, not an economic miracle. Useless opposition got her relected.

There'll be a 3rd rwy at LHR before options 1-4 happen! As for 5, Labour is more than capable of shooting itself in the foot, but probably not in the ways that you suggest.

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