lets say Mr Engel gets sh!te faced on saturday night, a few long island's under his belt
Not what anybody is advocating.
Absurd, puritanical limits are completely unnecessary.
The world is in the grip of faceless bureaucrats and self-serving politicians legislating to take more and more control of our lives, aided by the sensationalist gutter press and television quoting uninformed, ill-educated 'public opinion'.
I have no argument if a real issue is being addressed in a rational, sensible manner.
Like so many issues today that is not the case. We have absurd legislation that achieves nothing but does cause much disquiet and difficulty for the average law and rule abiding individual.
I am sick of it.
The pious, unverifiable and sweeping assertions evident on this thread are evidence of the malais afflicting today's society.