backtothebeat :
Why does everyone keep quoting "only" a £5000 pay cut ? It's actually
£5487.00 !
Has it been confirmed that CRTP is staying ?
If so, do you get it
only if you remain on the top pay point, in a role which attracts the Specialist Skills Threshold (SST) payment,
or would CRTP also be lost if you don't get SST and have to drop down to the lower point ?
... in which case the pay cut will be a
further £1182 which makes
£6669 - or if you prefer it's a pay cut of almost
18% 
( Or "only" a
14.5% pay cut if you don't get SST but manage to retain CRTP !
)
PAN :
I am not so sure that NPAS has actually been failing to answer the questions wholesale.
I am - and some of the "Wholesale" answers that I have seen are simply not true !
The main one that springs to mind is the one about 98% ( or is it 97% now ? ) of the population receiving Air support within 20 minutes.
NPAS are still preaching the figures based on the original flawed calculations -
where aircraft were already airborne at cruising speed over their base,
and started flyng on track towards the task when the clock started,
and not from the time when Air Support is first requested, with crew in the Office, Aircraft in the hangar,
and the Bobby on the Beat having to get their request routed via their Control Room, to the NPAS Control Room,
the NPAS controller to consider the request and agree to it, before being passed to the nearest aircraft to attend.
It is pure and simple DECEPTION to continue quoting this 20 minute response time.
In reality I personally reckon that 97% of the time, Air Support will arrive on scene after a MINIMUM of 20 minutes under NPAS.
I have no facts or figures whatsoever to back this statement up - just like NPAS
If this kind of "spin" is still being promulgated by NPAS, and no-one is asking for an explanation PUBLICLY,
what confidence can there be in answers provided to more specific questions ? ( If they get answered at all ) ?
Every time you see one of the NPAS "team" on TV, they continually quote these flawed Response times,
adding that everyone will have access to Air Support 24 hrs a day, that Aircraft will be despatched more quickly,
will be more effective, and will provide better "value" saving £15 million a year.
NONE of this appears to have been challenged publicly, and consequently it all sounds wonderful
morris1 :
The feeling by me is that this is not only just the first step towards civilianisation of Police Air Support,
but is also the first step towards a National POLICE FORCE - the one they tried and failed to set up a few years ago.
Watch this space - after National Police Air Support, it will be National Police Firearms Unit,
then National Operational Support Unit, Dogs, etc etc, until finally there WILL be a National Police Force.
I know of at least 4 TFO's in my Region that are planning to leave soon, some because of NPAS, some because of Winsor,
as they cannot afford the risk in staying and are considering progressing their careers in other areas.
Sadly, the lack of Police Officer TFO's may result in the role being Civilianised even sooner,
at a time when Police experience in the air is more crucial than ever.
