In which case was it worth throwing back pay and pay rises away in order to tweak the words?
I always love this threat from the various companies at EBA vote time. QF tries it on as well. If you don't vote for this we're not going to give you back pay. In every case I've seen they've paid the back pay as part of a renegotiated deal.
I thought the pay rises in the document that was rejected were not unreasonable, can't remember the numbers but they were not along the lines of the 3% that fair work paid the QF guys.
You mean QF ground staff? Long haul pilots still haven't had final submissions. They're scheduled for later in October. We'll be lucky to see a decision by Christmas. I suspect it'll be minimal changes (and those that occur will probably have been 'agreed' anyway) but your 3% mark will probably end up being close ot the mark.