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Old 21st Aug 2012, 15:28
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There certainly seems to be some disconnect here because the following is from the briefing document provided to EK crews regarding the new procedures. If the procedures are not applied with the flexibility to shortcut aircraft to improve efficiency then the whole point is lost.


On first contact Dubai Approach they will advise “Expect to turn base at”. Once established downwind if ATC decide that they are unable to turn at planned fix then ATC will provide radar vectors.

Pilots can expect to fly the trombone when traffic levels in the CTA are elevated however if there is reduced traffic during quiet periods ATC may offer a track shortening
Ummm, yes, I don't know if the word disconnect is apt here....I don't know if your briefings and ours came from the same planet...

We've been told that more than 3 aircraft in the CTA, no direct routings. Aircraft WILL be expected to fly the full STAR, if a shortcut is required it will be issued by the Director position, who is required to issue track miles to touchdown as well. Working Arrivals sector, it is rarely possible to guess at where the Director will turn you base, so you as pilot will NOT be told on first contact with Arrivals where you're going to be turning base.

The days of shortcuts and direct routings are over......sorry.
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