I know the names..but don't think names are allowed on Pprune??... I'm either not willing to post enough information, or too much it seems. Keg...you would know the Capt, if only by reputation... he is a shocker. The SO is an experienced one (as they all are by now...). If the Capt keeps his command or even his job then the saying "whats harder to do than get into Qantas??... getting kicked out!" may be true...