Thank you Jerry Lee. And thank you (I guess..) fwjc. Whether my posts are ''daft'' or not, I get results from them. I use PPruNe as a tool to get the aviation info I need, from (reasonably) reliable sources and that's that. With this thread I just wanted to have a bit of fun...sorry! Some people say that PPRuNe is crap these days because people just write sh*t comments and have a go at new- comers. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the picture, and I'd be lying if I said I couldn't see the funny side of it.. but right now it's not really so funny for me... I'm sorry I'm not a professional hard-boozing Sky God like most of you guys here, but I won't apologise for inquiring and trying to utilise PPruNe and maybe have a bit of fun!!!