The old "responsable for terrian seperation" stuff post cairngorms accident.
"But I always am" as a reply never went down well.
The training more than likely hasn't changed in 40 years, I think the lads said it was 6 weeks then posted to unit for on the job training. Compared to a civi which its getting on for a year with sim sessions. I am sure Milo can give us the proper numbers. Hence Mil controllers don't get any grandfather rights if they want to go civi when they leave the mob.
Everything seems to be, the pilot will do........ the pilot when instructed will.... When it should be the pilot may do... if the request is legal for them to do so or they have been requested in a polite manner and entered into an agreement.
No appreciation of the range of qualifications that civi's have and for that matter that certain aircraft types can't do certain things.
Which means you get stuff like "not below level xxxx" to VFR traffic.
Last edited by mad_jock; 25th March 2012 at 09:32.