Blimey Guys lets get a sense of perspective here. Surely a constructive thread would be better than a lets just slag off Mil ATC.
Yes some Mil ATCOs are guilty of over controlling... as are some civil ATCOs.
Yes we can all recite incidents where I was told not above instead of for co-ordination request not above etc etc... but then I am sure most ATCOs Mil or civil, can regurgetate tales of GA pilots dropping clangers.
I had just written the above paragraph when I scrolled down to read MJs latest post... I'll come back to that in a moment.
Maxred
It sounds like you transit this airspace fairly often, If you feel that are are not satisified with the service you are getting whilst transiting the Leeming - Linton area, give them a call next time something happens that you are not satisified with. If you need any contact numbers then PM me and I will gladly put you in touch. Its only with feedback to the supervisors that these things will improve.
MJ
You baffle me. This thread is supposedly about an incident involving a specific Mil ATC unit (Leeming I believe from the OP). You start off your initial contributions with a "
them" statement and then in another post mention 5 Mil units by name and make glowing reference to their standard of service.
You then go onto the Mil AIP and how it reflects badly upon Mil ATC that we charge for it.
Your posts then turns to the Mil ATC trade as a whole and we are told by you how Mil pilots are our strongest critics closely followed by civil ATCOs who fly.
Finally we get to the conspiracy part of your grievance.
Mil AIP. ATC do not charge for its access. It belongs to the MOD, to charge for it is a policy decision by them , not the RAF.
Mil pilots attitude to Mil ATC. I am guessing my interaction with Mil aircrew is a little more in the know than yours. On the whole we have an excellent relationship..... your broadbrush statements are based on what precisely? However I completely accept there are times when they can ocassionally get messed about by ATC.
The conspiracy of Mil ATC covering up. Laughable.
Bringing it up on Pprune as the way forward. Yes its a great way of having a bitch and moan and hearing just one side of the story... will anything change as a result of it...probaly not as if you think the SATCO at Linton (I thought it was Leeming that was in the firing line) is reading the GA thread on Pprune....
I completely get Maxred's post... yours however, aside from the swearing and bits I dont actually understand what you are on about I just find a combination of mildly entertaining and ... well, rambling hearsay and factually inaccurate guff.
I am sure you will come back at me with some more pearls of wisdom.... I am standing by to be further illuminated.