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Old 7th Mar 2012, 18:32
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Brakes...beer
 
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Landing after 22 hrs awake

The MP in the green tie (it would have been nice to know their names at the start of the session) at 1hr 13 asked Andrew Haynes, the Chief Exec of the CAA, whether pilots could land having been awake for over 22 hrs either now or under the EASA proposals. I was amazed that Andrew Haynes said this would be an "exceptionally, exceptionally rare event" and only after being called from a long standby, going into discretion etc.

I should think it must happen many times a day with long-haul arrivals and is an inherent risk of 18-30 hr rest periods downroute. Take a standard 2-crew East Coast trip arriving in the US/Caribbean at about 1700 local/2200Z. Meal, sleep, wake up at at 0300 local/0800Z. Can't sleep during the rest of the day (why should you on your body-clock?), pick-up late afternoon for a night-flight home, landing back in the UK at 0700Z after 23hrs awake. Bog standard duty, all on schedule, no discretion involved.

The whole discussion seemed to be subconsciously based on a short-haul operation. The really scary thing about the EASA proposals is that they would extend this model to 2-crew West Coast operations, so you'd routinely be landing after 27 hrs awake.
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