WOW, you think the Harbin hotel is ok? Then I guess the hotels that Shenzhen stayed at were not so bad after all. I flew for SZX for a little over a year and while I thought most of them sucked (with the exception of the Grand in guangzhou and the resort in Haikou) Harbin was the worst. Let this be a warning to all thinking of doing this, probe things Harbin is better than most he has seen and it's bad so I can't imagine what he must be use to.....