Two responses to the previous,
1) you need to be fluid in the manouvres, ie reduce throttle/apply flaps /all done in a turn etc. that is what good flying is all about, that is a good thing I feel. (except maybe downwind into the sun, but what can you do about that except buy good sunglasses)
2) thank you John (Farley) for your contributions. I (and I am sure everyone else is) aware of the valuable insights and the experience you have to offer us and I personally would like to thank you for taking the time to contribute.
mike Jones