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Old 9th Jan 2012, 21:15
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LeadSled
 
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Folks,
As I have posted every time this thread, in various guises, pops up --- you could all do well to have a look at what ICAO requires, and traditional ICAO (as per, for example, NZ AIP or UK CAA R/T Handbook) ) R/T procedures.

If Australian student pilots were taught rudiments of standard R/T procedure, and the why and how they came to be what they are (except in Australia) we wouldn't need this thread again. Sadly, rote learning (from the grossly excessive "standard phrases in the AIP), rather than the principles of good R/T communication, is a core problem.

Trouble is, instructors who were taught by their instructors, who don't know either, and the anal Australian approach to compliance, at the cost of communication ---- and the problem has become self perpetuating.

As I have said so often, Australia has "radio procedures", the rest of the world communicates.

If you knew, inwardly digested, understood and followed ICAO SARPs on this subject (Annex X, Vol. 2, or PANS/RAC 4444) all the silly questions, including where some of you get tense about tense, and most of the other questions/complaints would just go away.

But, sadly, that's not the "Australian way".

Tootle pip!!

PS: And, please, only read back what is required.
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