@711 (& Rant at those on Cos99)
Sorry Guys if I let fly with alot of emotion. Doing so once in a while helps me get back to focusing on other things. I just hate doing it here on a public forum. and it would be too embarrassing doing so on the AOA forum. So where else do I go to let off steam..
But my comment was made to those in 30-40 margin!
(assuming all you 30-40 olds had the brains to see this info in this light)
As you are 40+ Cos08 has better security esp if u have a family and no time left to mess around with the risks etc..
What I'm really saying is that Real Facts and statistics etc go along way to help predict a small part of the future. It took someone like Batmann (Thanks a million BTW!!!) to spend hours to produce something which the AoA should have had in spreadsheet before they even began neg on RA65. Tells you something about their preparation!
6P's = Prior Prep Prevents Piss Poor Perf
They did not do it & thus they did not do enough to educate and lead us!
We're still struggling with 25 housing, which in itself is a big saving for the co & now they trying their luck for more, forget change the 1 to a 2 (15-25yrs = done) + FTL and C scale are starting to haunt us. Get a grip everyone. We should be upping a preparation.
Also you suggest continuing past RA55 on reduced terms for Cos09! Are u crazy even suggesting such things you just feeding management with ideas!
We need to educate guys well in advance to do the contrary. I will accept continuing past RA55 on increased terms a bit like the A scalers could have done 3 yrs ago. But some of them were so self centered and impatient to play that game and ruined it for most of those that were gain. (2008 crisis hit and Pilots were totally unprepared) They were powerless then without unity and a plan! Like we are today and will be tomorrow, because we a million dollar morons with no ability for lateral strategies that are practical. Every time we start a clean page with management we offer them something.
Don't be sheep guys.. The heart of the airline in the new decade will be the current 30-40yrs old whom need to be empowered by good leadership which can do due diligence with the 6P's and thus provide a strong platform for us to neg and aviate this company to new high's.
Sorry to say I'm not nervous as I'm a long way into creating a plan B if the above pans out to become a mess.. Sad but true! If the AOA carries on the way it does I don't even think I'll make it to RA55.
It drives us all crazy, I know. As there are many in the company (some 1st class guys in the fleet offices / training & AOA that dedicate massive time to ensuring this company runs on rails. But there are still sooo many missed opportunities... Why? Bad leadership higher up in the Co and the union maybe!
HKA will hopefully add some stimulus to get things going with more integrity here?
BTW - No matter how much bar talk, prune post one does, it will do jack to change things.. We need GREAT leaders to make it all happen!
While we wait "wishfully" for that. For those that have not started, start by leading yourself to having MAX security in life apart from being a just being CX Pilot! and not PH's way either! (Aka crews news)
Back to these figures of "RA bulge" from 2020-40 with peak in the 30's is an hint for a huge opportunity for us to come. Who is going to capitalize 1st? Us in FOP or the bean counters. Well so far they have set the precedence with C scale esp now with LEP >250 hrs intake what's to stop them offering DEFO on Local terms and we seriously lack the synergy to pool our idea's to counter that. Thus are losing another round in the ring. None of us can fight this alone, and with the current arrangement in the union. Until then we'll keep seeing the horrible side of human nature greed and every man for himself!
The AOA forum is dead and this forum just hangs out our dirty laundry!
We need to re-invent yourselves and play catch up fast! Lets start by having a new FORUM! This is the new internet age and most layovers have free internet!
We need to change this C scale bull and get housing and DESO/FO back and have some well balanced / level headed cockpit crews flying for this premium Airline! At make it what it once was! No problem with Cadet's on C scale but stop at 20-30% of hires! If it continues this way, it's a time bomb!
Sorry if I offended some but for all the bitching you'll have to agree with some of my points. Alot of us including me go through parts of our career here with blinkers on..!!
Last comment = PLEASE CAN SOMEONE START A SECURE FORUM!
(Anything is better than this)
We've got alot to talk about..the silence is deafening.
The manager accepts the status quo; the leader challenges it.
The manager has his eye on the bottom line; the leader has his eye on the horizon.
Leaders must encourage their organizations to dance to forms of music yet to be heard.
Good leaders make people feel that they're at the very heart of things, not at the periphery.
Last edited by crewsunite; 11th Jan 2012 at 16:08.
Reason: Grama