AH, thats my view, call it a democracy. I don't see the problem. Virgin are going to top up the T&C to match the DOM-EBA. What do you think is going to happen with the PB guys in the long term? Are we going to whinge and bitch if they fold them into the VA EBA, are we going to whinge and bitch if they dont? Get it! it's a tempory messure to get extra bums on seats, that would otherwise be lost. Im more than content to give JB the benefit of the doubt, after all his name is John not Bruce