Polar_stereographic - I don't mean that as a result of being put on the Aztec helped me get a job, I mean as a result of not moaning too much and asking for refunds etc. I think it may have helped. My instructor also happend to be the chief pilot at the time and very occasionally was approached by airlines for suitable F/O's. I feel that if I had been whinging constantly I may not have been put forward for my RH seat job Im in now.