Biggus, given the current state of things, I'm not sure I will ever retire. I left the service in 94 but just happened to be in Gib and got know some of her officers who sneaked me aboard. it was USS Providence on her final trip. It confirmed my belief that subs are awful things and I can't imagine why anyone would want to spend 3 month on one. Mrs Navaleye unfortunately went suicide shopping because they would not let her on. At least I didn't take my best man with me.