I think you guys are doing a diservice to the 2 stripers. 99% of them are fully capable and all are well trained to take over from old codgers (or anyone else) like me if I kick the bucket, despite their lack of experience. Indeed, didn't one such lad not so long ago do just that (and very well) when his Skipper expired? I've no problem working with these new cygnets, but maybe my 24,000 hours puts a different perspective on the issue. Cast your minds back to when you were wet-behind-the-ears with just a few hundred hours, I remember it well and thanked the Captain's I flew with for being so patient & understanding and for passing on valuable tips & advice, even though they weren't Trainers...maybe you should consider adopting this mindset too and give these guys/girls a chance to reach your standard?