MLC, I am trying to get in touch with Cosgrove, no email available that I can find, but we share the same school (Waverley College) and as we are both old boys, I am going to try and find him thru the old boys union. I intend to put the concerns that most of us share to him and why. To look at that board, to see not ONE technical person on it, makes you wish for the days when all airline boards contained at least one senior Engineer and one senior Pilot. That lot could be on the board of a company selling jam tin labels, and not know the difference. Just a big wa%k for those people, though at least Cosgrove has some idea of reality, more than most I suspect.