Instead of all you Qantas pilots whining about Jetstar and waisting your union fees on expensive advertising campaigns and bill boards, you need to get smart and work out how to do your part to make Qantas more efficient. The whole company is ridiculously inefficient. You should team up with the other unions and work this stuff out. I was on holiday in Sydney recently and overheard some Qantas managers talking in a cafe. They were saying the pay and conditions are not so much the problem but the inefficiencies in the company like how 3 engineers/groundies are required to push back an aircraft when other airlines are using 1 with a power push. There were many more examples. Anyway get smart and help improve Qantas performance, it may mean some job losses? But get efficient then your airline will grow and need more staff eventually. And you will keep your conditions as well. From the outside looking in, Qantas is over staffed and inefficient, some of this is managements problem, but it is also the staffs problem. Sort your **** out now and help take Qantas into the future, you will keep your conditions with this attitude. And also tell your unions to stop crapping on about how great Qantas pilots are, your not the only ones who no how to fly! Jeeepers it comes across real bad! And the company must remove the JT safety brief immediately!!!!! Good luck