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Old 24th Jul 2011, 01:56
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Keg

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T-VASIS. Why doesn't the union refute them? Because to explain the detail of the request gets bogged down in a minor argument.

Want to know the truth about it?

We want to be able to purchase QF club access at the 'corporate rate'. We currently don't have it. Most won't bother but some will want it. It doesn't 'cost' the company much but it makes a great headline if they're attacking pilots as being greedy. Currently ADF members and Airservices Australia employees have this facility. Funny that no one accuses them of being greedy. Then again, QF offered it to them, they're using it as an industrial tactic against us.

We intend on withdrawing from the current LSL trip provisions (a free trip for the whole family on certain onload/ upgrade priorities in return for two tickets per year. For some crew this is a step back, for others it's a marginal step up. Qantas costed this as two return tickets to LHR in premium economy (and the full commercial rate for that) and decided that was the 'cost' of the ticket. The reality is that most 767 and A330 drivers would use it to take their kids away with them on a trip and neither of those fleets go to LHR. Very rarely would it displace a commercial passenger and given the lead time that we would be required to book, it would never displace a 'known' passenger unless QF chooses to oversell the aeroplane. This 'ask' came about because the security industry consider our family members to be a security risk and we can no longer utilise the jump seats to get the family away/ home. In return, we no longer have access to the LSL provisions and their unload/ upgrade priorities (which themselves have been diminished over the last few years but you get that).

We actually do want a change to unload/ upgrade categories to return the categories to what they were a few years back. These days you have a recent joiner (as recently as 6 months) in a 'middle management' position- not executive management, not the equivalent of a fleet manager, they may have 1-2 subordinates- who gets unloaded and upgraded ahead of Captains with 20 years service. That didn't occur five years ago and the requested changes in category return us to that point. It doesn't 'cost' the company much, it restores something previously held but diminished by the current management, but it makes a great headline for QF when they publicise it.

The crew rest demand was never a 'demand' per se. It's been re-worded and clarified and is now a non-issue.

As previously pointed out, these aren't 'demands'. They're things that we'd like and have put up for negotiation. So far AIPA have expended significant energy reviewing the 68 Qantas claims but precious little time has been spent by Qantas reviewing AIPAs 6-8 claims (can't remember exact number).

So if you reckon you can condense all those intricacies into a 20 second sound bit then knock your socks off. You'll note that Qantas doesn't bother explaining the nuances of it, they just go with the easy distortion/ lie.

Then again, given your trolling ways, not sure why I bother. i'm sure you'll use this as an excuse to yet again slag off at the pilots.
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