Originally Posted by BBtB
Finally, if I was augmenting and was told by the operating Captain to stay out of the cockpit until doors close... we would have some issues to resolve!
No issue - you'd be replaced
Originally Posted by dustyprops
"However I will take a glance at the speeds and flex as I take my seat!" What a clever boy you are.
Don't need to be clever - it's just called having a vague notion of what 360 tonnes requires to get airborne! Not difficult is it?????
Originally Posted by BBtB
that augmenting crews will put their blind faith in the operating crew
You mean like the pax and CC on a normal two pilot flight from PVG do???
Save the hystrionics gents... From the safety dept I hear that the CVR is an hour of bullsh1t chit-chat. Forget the interruptions!!! It was not a classical Swiss-cheese situation!
With proper use of SOP this accident would NEVER have happened And no, it didn't need new SOPs afterwards as was the knee-jerk reaction, they were robust enough beforehand if they had been followed...
TangoUniform. Willful violation of SOPS might not be in the definition of 'accident' but it bl00dy well nearly lost us a 345 and full complement of pax and crew
