BPF Point taken, I was probably a bit flippant with my post, but if a 20flap stall in a climbing turn, which was what I was doing turns into a spin , that is not intentional spinning, although I admit I had a fair idea what was to happen. I was always careful not to exceed the flap limiting speed, and as I remember I would be running the flap up as soon as recovery began. However, the whole point of the post was to warn that Cessnas are not always pussy-cats, THEY CAN AND DO BITE!