Sorry fruitbat but you are saying exactly the same as certain union reps. It is rubbish. We as a division had to find our cost saving of £127 million. We achieved it in part by introducing new salaries for crew and managers. This is not about cutting existing crews salaries. It is about cutting the wage bill in the long term. We have offered our crew a 'TOP UP' as a guarantee on earnings and set the variable levels already for year one. We do not expect to pay out anyone as the crew will still be earning over the average. Destination payments etc will and are being redistributed to existing crew on the original fleets. The real impact is in actual fact variety of routes. WW will still be earning their rates of pay but will be going to fewer destinations. This is what we have put in place. I really think you need to speak to one of your ground managers to give you actual insight.