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Old 29th July 2001 | 03:13
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scroggs
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Ivan,
if you have a complaint against my style of moderating, you can of course complain to [email protected] (Capt Pprune) and raise your objections with him. If sufficient people did likewise, and with good rationale, Danny would have to consider withdrawing the Whip from me.
However, if your objection is that you don't like the message I bring, then I'm afraid you're barking up the wrong creek. The fact that you don't like the message is no reason to shoot the messenger, as long as the messenger reports the truth. I do. The world is never ideal, and aviation is no exception to that rule. You would rather I told you that everything is wonderful, that all wannabes will make it, and that all airlines will be eternally grateful that you've put your financial lives on the line for them? Dream on, mate, because it's not gonna come from me.
You guys are all very good at supporting each other with the required platitudes when necessary; you don't need me to do that. I will guide, advise and opine when I am asked to and, unfortunately for you, when I'm not. What I won't do is bull!!!! you. If you want a yes-man for a moderator, you won't find him here.
So, you have to learn to deal with the real world. As I said in my first post on this thread, there is no real difference between a modular course graduate and an integrated course graduate - or, at least, there shouldn't be. However, that's patently not the way some airlines see it, and it's more than likely their experience that's brought them to that judgement. That, for you, is tough. You have the choice of doing whatever that airline requires (if you wish to work for them), or of going somewhere else. You can try an emotional outburst against the airline in question if you wish, and I fully acknowledge the therapeutic value of doing that here, but it won't make any difference.
You all have to realise that to change the world, you have to be in charge, or in a majority. You aren't now, but one day you might be. When that day comes, remember what your problems were when you started.........

V1rotate.
Interesting post. What statistics and experience do you have to back up your claims? Would you suggest that your opinion is more valid than your potential employers' collective experience? Or perhaps would you accept (until you have proof otherwise) that they have a reasonable idea of who they want and why.

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