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Old 31st Mar 2011, 17:01
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Lost in Saigon
 
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Originally Posted by a330pilotcanada
Good Morning L.I.S.

You mentioned: very simple solution to all this is to let one pilot retire early for every pilot who retires Late". The following in a previous post would you please educate us in the 2% penalty provision per year retiring early refers under the current collective agreement for retiring. Or in today's environment have the company swallow that one or how about the membership. Wow look at the GREEDY S.O.B. who wants to retire early I will have to support him/her.
The 2% penally for early retirement will not be needed because of the reduced drain on the pension fund due to pilots over 60 continuing to contribute to the plan while not drawing on it. Some keen actuaries with sharp pencils might even figure out a way to let 2 pilots retire without penalty for every one that stays.


Greed? How is it greedy that he wants to continue at Air Canada and not start collecting his pension? As far as "double dipping" Mr Ennis is going to THY where he will be making much more than at Air Canada. Oh this one is very difficult, until it was fashionable to have a collective agreement which I might add was contractually agreed by both company and legal teams from both sides reviewed word by word it was put to the membership for a vote. Guess what the majority of the union accepted that provision through voting. Now a minority in the 3,000 (5 percent) pilots is now taking this to Canada Human Rights Tribunal because their human rights are being violated

Your argument would have more intellectual credibility if you mentioned if you either showed up at a council meeting with someone to second your motion to have the L.E.C. take your concerns to the M.E.C. or run for union office with your platform being the abolishment of contractually oh sorry "FORCED" retirement.

From the reader's comments in response to Mr Ennis's Globe and Mail article and from PPRuNe there is much thoughtful discussion here than at AvCanada which seems to produce discourse analogous to phyla pastry which if you have not tried it is light and fluffy.
Many years ago, when the subject first came up, ACPA refused any intelligent conversation on the subject of working past age 60. They also refused to represent any pilot who wanted to challenge forced retirement. There is no reason to believe anything has changed.

The Air Canada contract has been found to contravene the law of the land. Appeals are in the works, but right now it is futile and childish to defend your position by saying "we voted on it".
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