So youwant the Engineers to vote yes so you can have your extra little payments now? Well we expected that. We voted yes in the first round. Fair enough. But the managers of our fair company decided they'd try and be clever ******s and play one lot off against another - and its worked. We don't want support from ATCOs, mainly cos we know we're not gonna get it. You lot made it perfectly clear over many posts in here that your all gods and everyone else is the scum that you walk over. Maybe a little strong, but from my point of view your post Eye is typical of what we expected. You've got what you want now sod everyone else. Well it doesn't work that way. As we are all still in the SAME union, not a different union, and as you originally stopped the pay deal from happening, how can you complain that you are now stopped from having your bungs? In an ideal world ATCEs and ATSAs would get the same pay rise as the ATCOs. That is, after all, what we wanted. We don;t want equal pay (well, we do, but we'd never get it...), all we want is parity of pay increase to reflect the hard work we do in supporting the core business, as well as the new business that is starting to make a little cash. So you can say all you want that we should just shut up, and it will probabbly transpire that we will cos of the spineless union we have, but at the moment you're just gonna have to sit back and get used to someone else being in the driving seat for a change.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-ATCO. I'm anti people getting above their station. If the Systems Engineers weren't sat in Systems control, or the infrastructure boys at Heathrow and Gatwick weren't controlling the networks, or the day teams supporting all of us were not in the building, how much confidence would you have in the system to sit at your sector and work as hard as you always do? What happens when you get your first phantom ring? I suggest you won't be overly happy. So just remember that the little lowly Engineers have a very large part to play in the company. Remember that next time you tell us to accept a bigger pay rise for you.