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Old 15th Feb 2011, 19:10
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Sunfish
 
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Stupid pontificating, nit picking, tossers!!!!!

I know that some of you understand exactly why the FAA mandated 1500 hrs. experience.

Do you know why it was done so quickly and with so little opposition from the rest of the industry?

The answer to that is SHAME, pure and simple.


Read the transcript linked below of the Colgan Buffalo crash CVR.

F**k the technical details -, you are listening to Two badly trained and inexperienced pilots, both badly paid and with money worries operating in rotten working conditions in a sick, cost cutting, corporate culture. For both of the pilots, this was "just a job", and a not very good one at that.



Do you want to be reading a similar transcript from a Jetstar or Qantas cockpit one day?


Read the full transcript and weep.



http://www.ntsb.gov/Dockets/Aviation...027/418693.pdf



Extracts which just jumped out of the pages at me.



21:32:13.0
HOT-2
they didn't do a twenty four hour ice protection test.


21:35:15.0
HOT-2
I've written— I mean I've written other planes up before. just not from—
with Colgan.



21:35:59.0
HOT-1
that way if I screw up and write it up one way and it grounds the airplane
but it's not— it's not exactly or I could write it up slightly different to get an
MEL to get it back to where you can do maintenance type of deal.


21:46:22.0
HOT-1
right.
21:46:22.9
HOT-2
depending you know how— how long would it be to make that worth my
while. would it— would I make more money upgrading into the Saab right
away or would I make more money if I waited for the Q for a little while.
21:46:32.6
HOT-1
well think of it this way uh if you— if you stayed on the on the Q obviously
you're gonna— you're not making the captain rate.
21:46:42.0
HOT-2
right.
21:46:42.5
HOT-1
but you may have a better quality of life to begin with uhh with regards to
buying a house and having a schedule to where you you know you could
work around and you could be—
21:46:55.3
HOT-2
exactly.
21:46:55.6
HOT-1
you know home with your husband to to take care of all that kind of stuff.


........

21:47:13.5
HOT-2
just because I don't want to commute my whole life...so um once I do
upgrade you know once once Alaska starts hiring I don't— I mean I don't
necessarily have to have a thousand hours PIC. I need to have some PIC.
21:47:25.7
HOT-1
you don't have to with uh Alaska?
21:47:26.8
HOT-2
um it it depends. you you you do and on paper you do but it just— it it
depends who you know. if you know people then you can kind of sneak
away with it a little bit. I definitely need to have you know the proper
experience you need to be qualified. but if I have—.
21:47:36.6
HOT-1
huh...sure.
21:47:40.4
HOT-2
you know if at about five hundred hours they said to to go and interview
and then I can interview and they can say we want you to have a
thousand hours. so once you get a thousand hours um we're gonna put
you into ground school. they'll say stuff like that.


...21:48:27.2
HOT-1
uh not too far from where he lives. but uh.
21:48:36.3
HOT-2
yeah I wouldn't mind— you know I could even see myself doing like I
mean for quality of life I could see myself doing cargo stuff and just I
mean like small stuff like there's a company that flies right out of my
hometown to Spokane Washington and back every night.
21:48:36.7
HOT-1
that's just—.
21:48:49.5
HOT
[tones similar to ACARS message reception]
21:48:51.2
HOT-2
and I'd do that three nights a week and be home. I could have kids and
raise a family. and I think that that might be more worth my while.
something like that.


21:49:18.3
HOT-1
I've gotta do this. I've gotta— I'm ready to move on. um [sound similar to
yawn] excuse me. it's kind of like me. you know I started this this little gig
late in life.
21:49:28.7
HOT-2
yeah.
21:49:28.9
HOT-1
oh it's like it's a second career for me basically because I— I was able to
take that package with Verizon.
21:49:34.1
HOT-2
yeah.
21:49:35.5
HOT-1
but uh...you know it's...you know do I— g— at this point do I go to a major
and you know not be able to be there for very long.


.21:50:03.4
HOT-1
uh and just and and dwell upon the quality of life part of it or do I stay here
with Colgan and uh...


22:12:05.0
HOT-2
I've never seen icing conditions. I've never deiced. I've never seen any—
I've never experienced any of that. I don't want to have to experience that
and make those kinds of calls. you know I'dve freaked out. I'dve have like
seen this much ice and thought oh my gosh we were going to crash.


Last edited by Sunfish; 15th Feb 2011 at 21:36.
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