on a differant note...somthing that totally pissed me off in the us...(I dont know about the uk)is that the hourly rate was charged on hobbs time...this means as soon as you switch the master on the time starts accounting...what a rip off...is this standard practice in the uk???when I did my Ir at multiflight in leeds they charged T/O to landing plus 10 mins which was very fair as we once sat on the ground for 40 mins waiting for clearance..and when your IR training you spend 15 mins twiddling the knobs ,,,before you even get going.