well Ops you will take out of that conversation what you will. I have no trust in anyone who promises with one hand and takes away with the other. Nor anyone who tells me we are a company in crisis and then we are financialy viable. People on all sides have been played with as pawns in this dispute and you must as an individual stand by what you belive. If the majority vote for strike action (and I will vote for strike action ) I will strike again and agian and again if need be.