karoshi
take your point but you seem too into character assasination for my liking
i think i work at the same unit as joko and talking in the rest room controllers and atsa's all use the term money for old rope
chiglet you must have heard/used this term yourself
so take a couple of steps back people before you go for the jugular at what you think the motive for a comment is without thinking what you and your fellow workers are saying about the jobs we do!