Sheik, I thought the same when I read that thread. I hope he meant, it is usless to fight what you can't change. LR3....right on the money. What many Americans fail to realise, is many with a JAR license can find a DEC position at the likes of Easy, Ryan, Air Berlin etc., so it makes it easier to come here and then return in a few years. But in the US, you will start again at the bottom if things don't work here. Had a mate came here as a DEC about 5 years ago from Air Berlin. After 3 years, returned to Air Berlin as a Captain. Try that if you're from the US. Take heed. So when you have "insurance" of returning to a left seat, it makes it easier to put up with a full bucket here. Additionally, a lot easier to run back and forth to Europe when it's only 5-7 hours of flight compared with 13-16 hours to either the US or Oz.