You are the reason it is better for BA pilots to discuss this in private! Go wallow in your poverty- you obviously prefer it to pilots doing something to improve themselves. In this case, it is not BA pilots 'improving' themselves, it is trying to recover from 10 years of excessively tight pay restraint. I should sell your computer and put the money into unit trusts for your retirement if your income is THAT bad! But I really feel you do not have a constructive input here!