You BA lot really should realise how good you have it, we at British European, a.k.a. Jersey European and now FlyBE.Com ! have had ZERO % for nearly 4 years and so please put this in perspective- a JY jet captain in year 1 can expect about £44,000 with about £3500 allowances to make your P60 show around £48K if you are lucky - end of story. Good luck to you all in your desperate struggle.