Good post again HFX, you are absolutely correct. The AOA must take a stance which completely stops all industrial action, including the ban and try to get back to the table. It is my unfortunate opinion that few of the 49ers will now be re-employed. I guess that is the sticking point now as ND and co have promised them their jobs back. The company is run and controlled by accountants who only understand immediate bottom lines. We all know that with a compliant and flexible aircrew body that bottom line will look pretty good pretty fast. That's surely the way to go, show how invaluable we can be to PROFIT and then next time we are at the table we will have a bargaining chip. Most of the middle/senior managers have never been at CX when the pilots were really trying to help so they have no idea of what we are capable - show them for a while and then talk again. Yes they just might take advantage again but we have little more to lose. The last thing we all want is a new contract shoved down our throats, cos it won't be a nice one.