Whats your problem with evilc, he didn't say XR would'nt get up, his deal was he would go and piss on a different tree if XR were up early July. So far in my view he is correct. There is some reference to years end, but I don't think that was part of the bet. Correct me if I'm wrong. In any case, I presume it still has to go through the AOC process yet, so probably will be years end before it's up will it not.