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Old 21st Oct 2010, 21:13
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intrested
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: anywhere thats pays
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Interested,
The issue is that the "computer system, request driven system" is not computer-driven at all. The rosters are still written manually. The computer system was a cheap version lacking many of the features necessary to make it work, so hence it doesn't. Essentially, it's an electronic request system but people are not getting what they ask for. What has now been discovered by the pilots is that a manually generated roster in the guise of a "bidding system" is no better than a manually generated roster without any extra "features."
So the options are either the current set-up or a fixed pattern roster that would allow some stability and predictability. The third option of a proper computer-driven bid system would require more investment and would involve the redundancy of most/all of the crew planning department. Which explains why we still have manually generated rosters and a crew planning department appearing to obstruct all efforts at change...
As for the block hours red-herring - the roster is so Interested,
The issue is that the "computer system, request driven system" is not computer-driven at all. The rosters are still written manually. The computer system was a cheap version lacking many of the features necessary to make it work, so hence it doesn't. Essentially, it's an electronic request system but people are not getting what they ask for. What has now been discovered by the pilots is that a manually generated roster in the guise of a "bidding system" is no better than a manually generated roster without any extra "features."
So the options are either the current set-up or a fixed pattern roster that would allow some stability and predictability. The third option of a proper computer-driven bid system would require more investment and would involve the redundancy of most/all of the crew planning department. Which explains why we still have manually generated rosters and a crew planning department appearing to obstruct all efforts at change...
As for the block hours red-herring - the roster is so inefficient that average ratio of duty to block hours is 2:1.
And the pension you talk of no longer exists. The new reality is a final salary cap of 120k and you must work 40 years to get a pension of 2/3 of that.
that average ratio of duty to block hours is 2:1.
And the pension you talk of no longer exists. The new reality is a final salary cap of 120k and you must work 40 years to get a pension of 2/3 of that.

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So what is the system missing? Or is the real agenda to outsource the planning department? Pretty radical agenda coming from a Union,? and if you want stabilty and predictabilty why not 5/3 5/3 without the add on,s ( 20 extra days ) My friend tells me you have had a number of changes over the last 5 years, so your claim of anyone obstructing anything is a fantasy.

They also say that your claim that rosters are manually generated is a ploy to get something different, facts are you bid for 3 weeks on the Monday of 4th week rosters are run and are in the pilots hands friday of that week, can they really write rosters in 4 days? for 500 pilots all 4 of them, unless of course if some are on leave. Reality is your Union rules dictate your roster First AMS can not be coupled TFS must have a Gash day after it and so it goes on. 6 Years ago you were working 900 hrs when the roster was manually written, so explain how it has got down to 650/700, and your right from a Company view point the roster is inefficent if you are "only working" those hrs, seems to me that the Company should go back 6 years

PS my friend says to call into them and introduce yourself, and they can show you how the system works, then you will be aware of the facts
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