Pornpants and legandawing
I suggest you read this from an unhappy Mixed Fleeter
Hey guys,
Bit upset and sad coz I wasted 2 years of waiting for the BA cabin crew contract and after carefully reading it and showed it to a lawyer decided to reject it.
Hopefully this topic will help for people who are hesitating accepting the offer or not.
Here are the questions that my lawyer asked from BA (you can all see in your contract):
Re Clause 3:
- This provision appears to contract me out of the employment benefits
to which I would otherwise be entitled under the Collective Agreements
negotiated between BA and trade unions.
- What benefits can I expect to receive under the Collective
Agreements or other terms agreed between BA and the trade unions? When will you be notifying me which of these benefits will be incorporated into my contract?
- Will I be eligible for the benefits negotiated in future after
signing the contract? Or does this provision preclude me from all
benefits under Collective Agreements unless notified in writing by BA?
- Is this provision mandatory? Or is it negotiable?
Re Clause 13:
- This provision refers to 'temporary lay off' during which - at any
time due to reduction in business - the company can require me not to
work, without pay.
- Is this provision mandatory or negotiable?
- What do you mean by 'temporary' - what length of time is considered
'temporary'?
- Historically how often has this happened?
And the answer from BA:
Thank your for your queries in relation to your Mixed Fleet contract which I provide reponses to below:
With respect to Clause 3 of your contract:
-The existing collective agreements in place for cabin crew do not apply to you and are not incorporated into your contract of employment.
-You have no entitlement to these collective agreements being incorporated into your contract of employment.
-There are no collective agreements that will apply to you under the terms of your contract of employment unless you are, at some future date, told that there is a collective agreement that expressly applies to you.
-The terms, conditions and some of the benefits of your employment with British Airways are as set out in your contract of employment and onboarding pack.
-These terms and conditions are not negotiable.
With respect to Clause 13 of your contract
-The temporary layoff clause is part of your contract of employment
-The terms and conditions of your contract of employment are not negotiable
-The duration of any temporary lay off period will be determined by the operational requirements at the time
-Historically, this has, to my recollection of the last 10 years, never happened.
Black and white for all questions you may have.
No rumor, no lies...this is just what they want!