250kts, I think you are missing the point. "The ATCOs then negotiate a SECTIONAL increase and all of a sudden the ATSAs/ATEs want a slice of the cake?? " Not true. As a PCS member, I have little choice but to leave the pay talks to PCS and then trust that they have judged the situation correctly. On that basis PCS members voted in line with the union recommendation. This year PCS got it wrong after being misled by management and it's not surprising that the majority of PCS members are not happy with the situation. It has nothing to do with ATSAs/ATEs suddenly wanting a slice of the cake. All we want is to be treated fairly.