Newsensation i think youve hit the nail on the head. I think QF are on the slide. They have decided to fight in the gutter for the $50 fares rather than go for yeild. And i for one cant see Australians travelling QF/Jetstar to Rome/Athens or numerous other European ports on an A330 with small seats plus having to pay extra for meals and entertainment when you can go on a VAUS 777 and a nice new Ethaid aircraft all inclusive. Only time will tell but i know i wouldnt back the QF horse unfortunately.