Talk about mountain and mole hills!
In Aus, not sure about the rest of the world there are stars that involve either a visual segment or and instrument procedure.
On a STAR with an instrument procedure, say an ILS, to complete the StAR you can either be cleared for the ILS or if you prefer and make your preference known, by reporting visual, cleared VSA.
At civilized airports where track miles can be reduced by producing a STAR with a visual procedure at the end of the STAR, such as Brisbane, Cairns, Perth and so they have these stars.
What instruction would you expect ATC to give you to remove any altitude limitations whilst carrying out either of these type of StARs.
I suggest either cleared for the instrument approach if the STAR terminates with an instrument approach OR ( as I flew in to Perth yesterday and the Gosnal 3 I think was our STAR) on the Gosnal example which terminates with a visual procedure we were cleared for a visual approach.
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Last edited by Skynews; 29th Aug 2010 at 23:17.