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Old 21st Aug 2010, 06:50
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L337

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"ABC123, fully ready"
Is this everyones pet gripe? Come on TRE's, get it sorted. Or maybe it's a flying school issue, it seems particularly prevalent in airlines with a younger pilot age profile.
When Delivery give me the ATC clearance, and then ask me to... "call when fully ready," I call fully ready. Often happens on busy days in the USA.

ATC: "ABC123, is MAG/Omelo/GMH etc on your flightplan?"
ABC123: "stand-by" (or just silence).
Next time why not read your flightplan in advance and know where you're going?
Long haul flight deck. 30 pages of FMS flight plan, and 20 pages of plog. A complex SID can take 4 pages of FMS alone. You need to remember that.

"Hello London, ABC123 FL360 direct STU"
Whatever about non-locals to London ATC, can't at least the locals read the AIP about what/what not to correctly transmit?
People do this on change over of FIR. ie If cleared to STU from the Irish FIR or Oceanic. ie not making the assumption that the 2 FIRs have communicated. The eastern med and the mayhem there and Africa makes pilots wary of the assumption that adjacent FIRs communicate.


"ABC123 request"
Oooh, a puzzle this one as always. Do you want a new FL, runway infomation or airplay of "Danger Zone" by Kenny Loggins? Must be a lot of shy pilots out there, but don't be, just ask for what you want.
I agree, but, not everywhere is the UK, or the USA, or Europe. If I launched into a complex request over China, or Brazil, or USSR asking to go 6 miles right of track, then back on track at TGZ, then heading 270 for 20 miles, I guarantee that I will get a long silence then a "say again." Saying "Request" Ts' up the controller that a non normal one is on its way.

ATIS: "Initial contact with approach with callsign only"
"Approach, ABC123, good morning to you, descending to 3000ft on qnh 1010, heading 100 degrees, speed 180 kts"
Is reading the bloody ATIS so difficult? In the mean time, as you spout forth your ignorance, I've been left high as the g/s disappears below.
You are correct, but in defence of others, that "Initial contact with approach with callsign only" request, is only ever made at LHR. Nowhere I have ever been, all round the world, does ATC made that request except at LHR going to 126.9. It is a UK thing.

Tiny England is just that, tiny. The world is a big place and it happens differently everywhere, and everywhere is different from everywhere else. Sometimes that nasty foreign stuff impinges on your tiny world and irritates the life out of you.

I will try harder, if you agree to go to counselling.
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