lh piloting Hamburg / Johannesburg
The way I see it, Hamburg 2008 was mostly the result of too little info given from Airbus
on the reduction of pilot authority on the controls (!!) near the ground.
Johannesburg: was in the 70ies, was in Nairobi, and the result of a not installed warning
system on missing/incomplete leading edge deployment. Crew exonerated.
Best, klauss