Since when in Gods name do you "request" a deviation which if not done will take the bloody wings of? The hell with standard phraseolgy, it goes like this," ABC centre CG XXX WILL be diverting left/right so many degrees to avoid { Build Ups/ CBs /or UFOs} your choice of which way Montreal Center or whoever." "Go ahead" I fear that if and when they find the remains of a recent high profile crash they will find this was not done. Understand one thing VERY clearly, they are down there cause you are up there! It aint the other way around! I just cant belive what I read somedays, nothing personel, but you are the guy in the hot seat and you have a whole tube full of trusting folks behind you, better to irritate ATC than make the front page! In this neck of the woods they are called "Air Traffic Services", Get the picture?And by the way, Im still alive after 56 years as a pilot,which proves two things, you dont have to be smart to survive, just get the important stuff right.{PS, From "She who must be obeyed,} my wife is retired ATC, she read the post and stated VERY clearly "tell us what you need to do, and we will move the other blokes" as you may gather from the terms used she is from" Dununder"just to the right of Ozz.
Last edited by john_tullamarine; 18th July 2010 at 22:16.