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Old 7th Jul 2010, 14:03
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Brookfield Abused
 
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VOR Holdings SCAM China Cargo

Are you thinking about this contract, oh sorry "Agreement" take note?
Being offered a Line Captains Position B777?
Anywhere but in China, a LIne Captain is a run-of-the-mill PIC.
Not here in China!

Ask the question to VOR- will I be PIC or SPIC on my Licence?
SPIC = SIC in China and everywhere else.

You will always sit in the RHS!
You will never be able to log PIC hours.

When you do your CAAC License Checkride in the sim, then the surprise comes - why is the SPIC box ticked off by the TRE?!
Seems the CAAC allows this and SPIC = CP (Co Pilot NOT Captain).
Answer - their Union does not allow you to ever be PIC here in China.

Another reason. Probably the Chinese PIC does not hold ICAO 4 English, so the CAAC requires min. two Crew Members Typed/Rated and current to be in the Cockpit that hold ICAO 4 each.
So the PIC is non-ICAO 4, the other two SIC's hold ICAO 4. Legal to fly!

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