to Oleo
"Personally I think the fault lies with the individuals on board and the culture at AirNZ,"
Perhaps it is worth reminding you ( and indeed all the other people who keep referring to this as an Air New Zealand crash ) that this was NOT an Air New Zealand flight , it was an XL Airways flight of an NZ aircraft prior to returning the aircraft to NZ - it was being flown by XL Airways crew who surely ought to have been able to say "No" to any requests by the Air NZ observers on board if they thought it was compromising safety .